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US homicide rate

According to the accepted source, the most recent US homicide rate is 5.00 and not 4.96.

Tmp100380 (talk) 18:51, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

The source you are citing displays "5", not "5.00". "5.00" implies precision to the second decimal place, whereas the "5" being displayed is the result of rounding. The source also lets downloading the XLS table with the unrounded numbers; it shows "4.96" precisely. Vgbyp (talk) 13:40, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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Binary options trading platform

Hi Vgbyp

Why you keep deleting my links? I have added glossary which is valuable information for binary options traders. please reconsider.

regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoavind (talk • contribs) 14:17, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Because it is a spam link to low quality resource, which adds nothing useful to the article. Vgbyp (talk) 14:39, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Vgbyp I disagree with you. it adds definitions of phrases in the binary option field, please visit the url. thanks.

I have visited it. The article's subject is well-defined in the article itself with sufficient number of references used. Your link has nothing to do with it. And please move this discussion to article's Talk page. Vgbyp (talk) 15:11, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Envid, Thank you for your insights into my work on the Birkirkara page. I understand your concerns and fully agree with reasons you specified. I was in the process of inserting the relevant citations when I got stuck with some data that needed to be revised and I did not insert the relevant citations in the meantime. I plan to work on the page over this weekend. Please do visit it again in a couple of days time and kindly advise me if there is anything that might need tweaking. I'm always happy to learn. Thank you Angie Balzan (talk) 08:46, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

I added the reference to major brands of binary platforms because I believe this is valuable information and not as a promotion to those sites. I fail to see why you choose to delete my reference. I’m asking you to please reconsider. If you think the information is incorrect (meaning those are not the major brands) I would be more than happy to know why. Chgoe (talk) 14:23, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

For starters, please move this discussion to the Talk page of the discussed article. Vgbyp (talk) 14:45, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Moved. Chgoe (talk) 07:54, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

I believe this is valuable information to Wikipedia readers. I re-added it. I disagree with you, sorry. please give an appropriate reason for the deletion. 24Option's writers (talk) 12:06, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Apologies

I didn't look carefullly enough and only saw the link and the reference to the link in the changes on the point and figure page. My bad. Sposer (talk) 13:02, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

russian causes of death on rosstat

how do you access it? someone told me you know. looked on the site and couldn't find it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flapski (talk • contribs) 03:45, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

This is the latest, I believe: http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/2012/demo/edn12-12.htm Vgbyp (talk) 18:47, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Vgbyp tht's great and just what i was after. thanks.

i just thought of something though (if you dont mind pal), is there a page before that that links directly to it and where they update it every year? this would save me from asking you in the future. have they got previous years' data on there which i'm also interested in? i couldn't find any of this on the English translate which is my first language but i might have missed it, i'm thinking all this you can only access in russian which i have a poor understanding of. sorry to be a pain. Flapski (talk) 16:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

I just had the link for 2011 (http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/2011/demo/edn12-11.htm) and googled its text ("ЕСТЕСТВЕННОЕ ДВИЖЕНИЕ НАСЕЛЕНИЯ В РАЗРЕЗЕ СУБЪЕКТОВ РОССИЙСКОЙ ФЕДЕРАЦИИ") to find the 2012 page. Vgbyp (talk) 17:04, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

thank you Vgbyp i got bogged down with other stuff and forgot. thats excellent it works a treat ive got a whole bunch of them from the last few years. kudos — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flapski (talk • contribs) 17:36, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

I Disagree to you with crime in China

I just want to let you know that I undid one of your recent edits, because the outdate of the crime rate. 0.8 is the new crime rate in china after 2 years and who said japans crime rate was 0.3 freaknomics said it is 1.17 with is 2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by CALGARY ROCKS (talk • contribs) 17:43, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

The whole table uses UNODC homicide statistics report as a source. If you have some important changes supported by authoritative sources, you should provide a reference for each rate, which deviates from the one in the UNODC report.Vgbyp (talk) 11:02, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

HFT NOT A TEST so put the code back, and then if you want, a sandbox exists for you to play

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gracias, i dont sign, i am too cool for wikipedia

now put the edits back in to HFT — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.10.199.189 (talk) 19:56, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

eToro Reference

Hi Envid,

could you explain to me why the Reference i added was deleted again.The source has a high reputation and publishes real reviews about brokers (good or bad).Link 21 to forexchef is just another affiliate projekt trying to earn money with fake reviews about brokers.I find it a bit odd that this kind of site is beeing published and the source i mentioned is not.I would appreciate if you could have a look at the reference and reconsider your decision.

Regards

shrader — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashrader (talk • contribs) 15:03, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

What is your relation to broker-bewertungen.de? The reference does not support the claims it is cited for. The fact that another reference is spammy does not mean that a second spammy reference should be added. The whole article is poorly sourced and will be rewritten soon. Vgbyp (talk) 17:52, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

I dont have any relation to the site at all.In my opionion the broker should be viewed from any angle instead of just the brokers sites itself and spammy affiliate projects.The reference does that by publishing useful informations and user reviews which help people including me to get usefull informations before investing real money. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:51:A81D:D831:152A:82B2:E900:F246 (talk) 18:49, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

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Hey Vgbyp! Was looking at the DOS link you added on the O visa page, I don't see any information about how O visa applicants (unlike other temporary visas) do not need to show binding ties to a residence outside the U.S. Was wondering if maybe you saw something different? Weirtz7 (talk) 18:14, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Hey Vgbyp! I don't agree with your changes on the O visa page. The first one you linked to an article that does not contain any information about the specific copy that you added the reference too. The second, you took away useful information to the user about what the O visa is commonly called. Have you taken a look at other Visa wiki pages? They link to similar content. Or even the O-1 page I linked to? It's a very thorough piece of content. The DOS link you added as a reference to the following text was removed because the page mentions nothing about O visa applicants not having to prove binding ties to residence, unlike other visas: "Unlike many other temporary employment visas, the applicant need not demonstrate proof of binding ties to a residence outside the United States which the applicant has no intention of abandoning." Weirtz7 (talk) 18:57, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

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Hey Vgbyp! Where exactly do you see that an applicant need not demonstrate proof of binding ties to a residence outside the United States from your notation? It seems like you are not keeping relevant information in the article. (No longer a case according to https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/employment/temporary.html) --- I undid your change because one of the main advantages of the O-1 Visa is that a holder does not have to prove binding ties to residence outside the U.S., this does not apply to O-2 Visas however. I updated the copy to reflect the facts. Weirtz7 (talk) 15:46, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Hey Vgbyp! I don't know why you keep saying self-promotion as a reason--- I don't own a legal website. Why do you keep removing relevant information?

IQ Option

Hi Vgbyp!

Could you please help me remove the official website (iqoption.com) from the blacklist? I have no idea why was it included, it must have been a mistake. Since it's blacklisted, I cannot make references to it to make the article more informative. Rrusl u (talk) 10:22, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps, it was blacklisted for a reason. Anyway, linking to the primary sources for reference is not a good idea.Vgbyp (talk) 10:34, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

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I forgot this is an encyclopedia, not an investigative reporting site lol. My bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottwindcrest (talk • contribs) 19:49, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

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List of countries by intentional homicide rate Discussion

Hi Envid! I don't understand what parameters were used in the current list, since most of sources are outdaded or divergent from UNODC latest report, how we can use Non-UNODC sources for some countries, and not for others? Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hesteriana (talk • contribs) 02:01, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Hesteriana: The list - the main table titled "Intentional homicide victims per 100,000 inhabitants. From UNODC." - uses only UNODC data. If some data there diverges from the UNODC report, please update it. We shuldn't use any non-UNODC sources there, not for any country. However, we can use any other reliable sources in the "Country subdivisions" section below the main table. Thank you! Vgbyp (talk) 07:55, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Digital Currency reference in a Currency article

(I have moved this discussion to Talk:Currency as it is relevant there.) Vgbyp (talk) 10:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Relative Strength Index External Link

Hello Vgbyp, You revoked my addition of an external link on the Relative Strength Index page. I believe the statistical part on all types of RSI entries on the page I added are worth being shown, especially that there aren't such data elsewhere on the net. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naimelhajj (talk • contribs) 08:43, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

It isn't an WP:RS, and it also falls under WP:COI. Please make sure you are following Wikipedia rules when editing articles. Vgbyp (talk) 16:36, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Undid revision 965594418 by Vgbyp (talk)

Thanks for taking the time to take the subject of EB-5 Regional Centers seriously, Envid.

I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that the entry you deleted was in no way promotional ... it described a notable and unique occurrence in the establishment of EB-5 Regional Center designations, just as the two previous RC entries before it regarding RC designations in Rockland, IL and the District of Colombia. This is not promoting an investment opportunity, as the NatureAll Regional center has since explored options of moving to Texas and sought to establish a new entity and new Regional Center designation in another state, requiring that the process of applying with USCIS be started again from the beginning. The entry is also not advertising a service, nor is it recommending any business or promoting any product.

Accordingly I have, respectfully, reversed your redaction ... I do, however, as a new member editor on the Wikipedia platform, appreciate your contribution to the important subject of foreign investment in the US economy through the EB-5 investment program. Please let me know if you have any questions for me!

-Patrick — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheNetOutcome (talk • contribs) 12:50, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

I am reverting it because it is unencyclopedic and promotional in nature. Vgbyp (talk) 16:33, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

With all due respect, sir ... you would have to erase the two other entries regarding specific regional center designations. This seems to have gotten personal for you. I will be re-reverting it back into existence as part of the official record kept here on Wikipedia, as it has as much, if not more, encyclopedic value than the previous two passages regarding regional center designations, and is not promoting any product, service, or investment opportunity. If you can point out my error where I am accidentally advocating for a product, service, or investment opportunity, I'll gladly agree with you. Otherwise, I urge you to enlist the opinion of an impartial third party, and be sure to mention my point about the previous two regional center designations, specifically mentioning by name not only the corporate entity serving as the EB-5 investment vehicle, but also principal agents as well as investment amounts. If these aren't promotional in nature, as you've mentioned, then how is the entry about the now defunct NatureAll RC? Thank you Envid! Please have a blessed 4th of July holiday. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheNetOutcome (talk • contribs) 23:49, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

It doesn't cite any reliable sources and is pure spam. Vgbyp (talk) 09:34, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia, your entries and responses are as well ... spamming: "unsolicited or undesired electronic messages" ... as long as we ignore, just as one would need to to consider my entry as being "spam," the complete absence of any kind of commercial advertising in your responses. Think about what you're doing and why you're doing it. I suspect you feel it's your personal duty to fight for the virtue of Wikipedia. In your quest to do so, however, you've become part of the problem. I can do this every day, Vgbyp. Keep it up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheNetOutcome (talk • contribs) 12:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

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The change in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bitcoin&diff=1130056766&oldid=1130010872

You reverted my change, saying it appeared to be original research. I'd like to discuss what falls under that category for you. There is a reference to a Senate bill, by Senator Warren. I suppose that part you would agree is not OR. Perhaps your issue is with the part I added following that, that it is the users of the network, rather than the network itself breaking fungibility. You may have have a problem with the next sentence as well, that users can use a CoinJoin transaction to regain fungibility. Are those last two sentences the problem? Thanks.

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Actually all three sentences are problematic in my opinion. The first one would require a secondary source that supports the said bill does indeed ban anonymized digital assets. The second one (about 'users not network') needs a source for itself. And the third one has two problems with its source: although the source excellently explains how CoinJoin works, it doesn't serve as a good non-OR support for the actual claim of the sentence, and it is also a wiki-website, which, being a user-generated content, shouldn't be used as a reliable source. Vgbyp (talk) 18:24, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

- The first one would require a secondary source that supports the said bill does indeed ban anonymized digital assets. That is literally what the bill itself says. Section 3.d of the Bill reads: "TREASURY REGULATIONS.—Not later than 120 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary of the Treasury shall promulgate a rule that prohibits financial institutions from ... (2) handling, using, or transacting business with digital assets that have been anonymized by the technologies described in paragraph (1)." As is mentioned in the lead up to this sentence in the article, chain analysis is how financial institutions will comply with the law, and how courts will determine if the law has been broken.

I think that passes verifiability, and the Bill itself was published by Congress. It does not need a second supporting source; it is the source! And because the statement is relevant, verifiable, and the source is reliable, it is not Original Research.

That said, I do need to word things better here, and you were right to delete it as is.. Overall it is not up to snuff.. I will go back to the drawing board on this one. But its not OR even now :p

Haxwell (talk) 06:06, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

The cited piece talks about financial institutions and anonymization by some specifically described technologies. Maybe that's exactly what was written in your edit to the article, but it's hard to judge - that's why a secondary source that would support the claim would be much more preferable here. No offense, but considering there is no urgency to add this information, it is best to get it right than to add it fast but poorly, decreasing the section's overall quality. Vgbyp (talk) 10:49, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

BIS article use of £stg

I'm putting this here rather than in talk:pound sterling because it is incidental to your main point (and my reply). Because Ireland had an Irish pound until it joined the euro, it was common practice in Ireland (and, seemingly, still is in banking circles) to disambiguate the £ sign. "For avoidance of doubt". Legacy systems etc. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:56, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about acknowledging something. Wikipedia is supposed to follow, not lead. It is not up to you to declare whether a code or abbreviation is "historical" or "obsolete" but actual use. We both provided sources, you cannot simply WP:ASSERT with no evidence backing your case. Find proofs or acknowledge you were wrong. OurangMedan (talk) 22:07, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

NETELLER

What were your reasons for reverting the edits I made? These were based on recent articles to ensure that all information was up to date Clapton3819 (talk) 13:06, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

For Neteller capitalization, please see the Manual of Style on Trademarks. As for the content, it looks like you've removed recently added content and restored some of the content from the older versions of the article. Vgbyp (talk) 07:33, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

NETELLER capitalisation is a brand stylisation. For the content, I updated the content to the most accurate version based on current sources Clapton3819 (talk) 10:48, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Did you read the section on Trademarks in the Wikipedia's Manual of Style that I've linked to? Vgbyp (talk) 10:34, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

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List of countries by firearm-related death rate

I am trying to update the table in this article:

• List of countries by firearm-related death rate

I want the latest year available for each country. I have finally figured out filters enough to get the UNODC source data down to 3 columns:

• https://ask.libreoffice.org/uploads/short-url/c4WknbwCD8xIJpOxRy9P5lKUyB1.ods

But I don't know how take it any further. If you could get it down to one year per country (the latest year) I would greatly appreciate it. The download link is from a LibreOffice forum thread. I messed up the filtering a lot, so I wouldn't waste much time on that thread:

• https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/csv-file-only-keep-last-entry-for-each-country/105990

You can paste the resulting plain table in this sandbox:

• User:Timeshifter/Sandbox250

I can take it from there.

I know how to keep multiple years (one year per column) in order to get the latest available data for all countries in the list. But that would mean keeping these 12 years: 2008, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022. That is too many columns.

That is why I only want the latest available year. This method is needed for many Wikipedia country and state tables.

Please explain the steps you take in Excel (or whatever you use) to get the results. I will try to figure it out in LibreOffice, and write up some more instructions. --Timeshifter (talk) 01:20, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Here is how to do it Calc:

1. Sort the columns by Year descending.

2. Select column A (Location).

3. Data->More Filters->Standard Filter.

4. Column A = Not Empty.

5. Options: No duplications.

6. OK.

7. Note that extra rows aren't deleted but hidden. You can now copy the remaining rows to another table.

Please let me know if you encounter some issue with this method. Vgbyp (talk) 14:15, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I followed your instructions and it worked. I don't understand it all, but it worked. I hope to write up the instructions and put them on a help page. I have started here: User:Timeshifter/Sandbox249#Instructions.

I will be putting the results in the article.

Question: How do I round off to 3 decimal places without changing the single "0" to 0.000. See:

Help:Creating_tables#Round_off_numbers

I can do ctrl-click on those numbers after selecting the column. That is what I did for the single column at User:Timeshifter/Sandbox249#Table with flags.

But that is tedious, especially if there are many countries with a "0" rate in many columns. For example, the 2014 to 2022 table here with many year columns:

User:Timeshifter/Sandbox250

I am going to add that updated table to List of countries by firearm-related death rate. Along with the latest available year table with just one column.

The 2014-2022 table has all the countries except Egypt (2011) and India (2012). --Timeshifter (talk) 07:53, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

To round off to 3 decimal places without changing zero to "0.000", you need to use custom cell formatting:

1. Select the column you wish to format.

2. Right-click.

3. Format Cells...

4. Under Format Code enter 0.000;-0.000;0;@

5. OK. Vgbyp (talk) 08:20, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks again! See: User:Timeshifter/Sandbox251
What exactly is happening with this?: 0.000;-0.000;0;@
--Timeshifter (talk) 22:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

The first part 0.000 is the format with three decimal places for positive numbers.

The second part -0.000 is the format with three decimal places for negative numbers (I understand that you probably don't have those, but you cannot skip the negative number part in such formatting strings).

The third part 0 is what to display in place of zeros (this is what you asked for specifically).

The fourth part @ is what is displayed when it's not a number at all and it means that it will be displayed as is. E.g., if you have a cell with text 'word' in it, it will be displayed as 'word'.

Please let me know if you need any further help with this! 06:49, 4 June 2024 (UTC) Vgbyp (talk) 06:49, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation!

See List of countries by firearm-related death rate

I updated the yearly table, and added a new table for latest available year.

I still need to write up some instructions for one of the Help:Table pages. --Timeshifter (talk) 12:45, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

See: Talk:List of countries by firearm-related death rate/LibreOffice Calc instructions for latest available year. It's a work in progress. I need to write up something for one of the Help:Table pages too. --Timeshifter (talk) 15:02, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

See: Help:Tables and locations#Data from latest available year. I link to the instructions for latest-year tables in 2 articles. I need to start from scratch with figuring out how to use LibreOffice Calc for List of countries by intentional homicide rate. --Timeshifter (talk) 19:50, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

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October 2024

It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IC Markets (4th nomination). While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. TarnishedPath^talk 04:03, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, but your warning is clearly misplaced. I didn't notify any users via their talk pages, but only did so by pinging from the relevant talk page. The only bias of choice was in regard to the topics that those users edited, while the pings remained limited and nonpartisan. If you check the edit history of those users, you will notice that they all reverted my own edits in the past. Calling those pings an 'indiscriminate cross-posting' or accusing me of sending them only to "those who are believed to hold the same opinion as me" borders on abusive. I kindly ask you to be careful when using warning templates. Thank you! Vgbyp (talk) 11:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Per WP:CANVASSING, "Canvassing refers to notification done with the intention of influencing the outcome of a discussion in a particular way, and is considered inappropriate".

The fact that you wrote "The only bias of choice was in regard to the topics that those users edited" indicates clearly that you selectively pinged edits and is WP:INAPPNOTE.

The only way your pings would have been appropriate were if you pinged ALL editors from some previously related discussion. Alternatively you could have left messages on related projects informing editors of the discussion.

Please do not continue this behaviour in the future. TarnishedPath^talk 12:56, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad! I didn't notice that user Sargdub already participated in this debate and I would like to apologize for that. That wasn't my intention to ping any of the users from the previous debates. My aim was to notify editors who made substantial edits on the topic, which is appropriate according to WP:APPNOTE. Vgbyp (talk) 15:07, 6 October 2024 (UTC)